One on one with Vanessa
Williams with Kam Williams
Born
in the Bronx on March 18, 1963, Vanessa Lynn Williams and her
brother, Chris (the actor), were raised in Millwood, a suburb of New
York City located in Westchester. Her parents, Milton and Helen,
both music teachers, are also each half-white and half-black. And
they must have had a premonition, because Vanessa’s birth
announcement read: "Here she is: Miss America!"
As a child, she studied both piano and French horn, though she
showed the most interest in developing her sultry singing voice.
Vanessa settled theater arts as her major at Syracuse University,
but she was too impatient to enter show business to stay there very
long.
On September 17, 1983, she made history and proved her parents to
be clairvoyant when she won the Miss America Pageant, becoming the
first black woman to hold the title in the process. Regrettably,
Vanessa decided to surrender her crown after some nude photos of her
surfaced in Penthouse Magazine.
But that temporary setback couldn’t prevent such a multi-talented
performer from continuing to pursue her dream, and she went on to
flourish not only as a recording artist, but also on TV and the
stage, and on film, winning a trio of NAACP Image Awards, while
landing 14 Grammy nominations (winning once), a Screen Actors Guild
nomination and a Tony nomination.
Currently, Vanessa is enjoying a recurring role on Ugly Betty,
not as the title character, obviously, but as Wilhemina Slater. The
bi-coastal beauty commutes back and forth between L.A. and her
hometown where she is raising her four kids, Melanie, Jillian, Devin
and Sasha.
Here, she talks about her life and her latest outing as L’Tisha
Morton in My Brother, where she exhibits an emotional range unseen
in any of her previous work as the mother of two adolescent boys,
one of whom has Down Syndrome.
So, how are you enjoying having a hit show and playing
Wilhemina Slater on Ugly Betty?
[Laughs] I love it! I love our cast. I love our writers. I love
the producers. I love our set. It’s just a really enjoyable
experience. I’m just so happy that I have the opportunity to play
such a fun role.
Are you at all like Wilhemina in real life?
Playing a diva like Wilhemina, most people assume that things
are usually taken care of for you, and that you don’t have a lot of
domestic skills. And many actresses don’t, because of the nature of
the business that we’re in. But the greatest thing about being a
mother so young, I had my first child at 24, is that I cook, I
clean, I love to be independent and kind of hate to be waited on and
hate to be taken care of. So, I guess that demonstrates my fiercely
independent nature which is kind of anti what I portray on a weekly
basis.
Well, you certainly come across as surprisingly grounded and
real. I guess part of that’s from being a mother, and part of that
is from not living in Hollywood.
[Chuckles] Yeah.
And I’d guess that you’re not the type to travel with a big
entourage either?
I don’t draw attention to myself or have security pushing people
away.
That’s admirable. How do your children like being able to see
you on TV every week like that?
My kids are so busy that they don’t even get a chance to catch it
every Thursday night. Given they’re schedules, they’re not even
home. My six year-old manages to see it, but all the other kids have
class or some other extracurricular activity, so thank God for TiVo.
In this age of the Soccer mom, where you’re constantly
shuttling children around, how is for you balancing your career and
your kids? I know how long the days are and what grueling work it is
shooting a TV series. It’s totally time-consuming.
It is extremely time-consuming. And we shoot film, so it’s not a
half-hour comedy. We’re doing an hour comedy every week, so it’s
like doing a film every eight days. Luckily, my days per episode are
usually three to four. So, I’m, not shooting every day of the week,
which allows me to fly home to be with my kids for the weekends.
That’s how I keep it moving.
I didn’t realize that. So, where’s Ugly Betty shot? And where
do you live?
I live in New York, and it’s shot in L.A.
Whoa! So, do you live in Manhattan?
No, I live in my hometown in Westchester. My kids go to the same
schools I went to.
That’s very interesting. Why did you choose to do that?
Boy, I moved back to New York in ’92, when my oldest was 5, and
about to start kindergarten. I wanted her to go to start school back
East. When we were looking for a home, we found one in my hometown
that was perfect. So, we didn’t intentionally move back there, but
that’s how it happened. My eldest is already in college at F.I.T
[The Fashion Institute of Technology] in the City. My 17 year-old is
a senior at the high school that I went to, and my son is in eighth
grade at the junior high where I was class president in the same
grade. And my little one is in first grade at Montessori.
Does your 17 year-old know where she’s going next year yet?
She’s been accepted by four schools and she’s waiting to hear
from four more. So we’ll know in a matter of weeks.
Good luck. My son’s a senior, too, and was admitted to
Princeton earlier decision, which means he’ll be close to home,
which is great.
Fantastic. My oldest went to a boarding school which was about a
half-hour away from Princeton.
Do you have a place in L.A? I don’t mean to pry but a friend
of mine out there, Jimmy Bayan, needs to know.
I’m renting in Beverly Hills.
So, what interested you in making this film, My Brother?
Well, the script and the whole theme of the movie interested me.
Anthony Lover, who wrote it, came after me and said he’d written
this part particularly for me, because he knew that as a mother I
would have the sensibility needed to bring it to life. And when I
read the script, and saw the nature of it, I signed on and met the
rest of the cast. And when we started rehearsals, I just knew that
it was going to be a very special movie.
I agree, I loved it, and I think that it also afforded you an
opportunity to exhibit an emotional range and a certain gravitas
that we haven’t had a chance to see from you before.
Yeah, well it’s nice to have material like that. That’s another
reason why you do independent films, because it allows you to do
roles that you don’t have to worry about whether or not they’re
bankable, or if people are going to come see them, or with
satisfying a committee that’s funding it. Of course, independent
films need distribution and money, but they also have a lot more
freedom in terms of what the artist can truly do as the filmmaker.
I also found it interesting that this is the first full-length
film to feature an African-American with an actual developmental
disability in a lead role. In fact, two, because both Donovan
Jennings who plays James as a child and Christopher Scott who plays
him as an adult have Down Syndrome.
Yeah, I didn’t think about it like that. They did a nationwide
search for actors, and I think they did a fantastic job with Donovan
and Christopher. For first-time out actors, in general, they’ve done
a wonderful job. We rehearsed for maybe about two weeks before we
started shooting. And Anthony, when he was directing, was very
supportive and very paternal with everyone, particularly them. In
working with them, his process was to kind of keep the camera
rolling, and to talk us through the scene, so it was almost one
constant take, as opposed to doing a series of takes, scene after
scene, sequentially. I think that allowed everyone to feel really
comfortable, and to get some extremely good performances.
What would you say is the movie’s message?
I think it’s a story about the human condition, and love,
whether it’s between a mother and a son, or the love of two
brothers. It’s about responsibility and becoming men, and applying
the lessons that were learned by their mother and bringing them to
their adulthood. It’s not a pity party, although there are some
strong images and a lot of obstacles that you see in the movie. It’s
a story about love, and it’s uplifting. I don’t want people to feel
sorry for Donovan and Christopher and the condition that they’re in.
It’s definitely not that at all.
What do you have on the horizon in your career?
I have another independent film called And Then Came Love, which
comes out in June. That’s a story about a female journalist who has
a child through artificial insemination which explores the theme of
women raising kids by themselves.
Isn’t Eartha Kitt in that?
Right, she plays my Mom.
How do you feel about Donald Trump pardoning Miss USA, rather
than stripping her of her title?
I really don’t have any feelings about it. I didn’t do the Miss
USA system which is way more big business and corporate-based than
Miss America. And that was 23 years ago.
What advice would you have for anyone wanting to follow in
your footsteps
Number one, find out what you true desire and talent is. And get
practical experience. The more you do, the more you’ll be prepared
when opportunities present themselves to you. So keep working at it,
be professional, show up on time, be prepared, know your stuff, be
pleasant, treat people kindly, and don’t forget to take chances.
Your being very gifted and blessed with beauty and a variety
of talents has served you very well: singing… acting… dancing….. And
your being well-spoken also enabled you to be a successful
spokesperson in commercials. But do you recommend that an aspiring
entertainer focus on one skill rather than several at once?
I think it’s up to the individual. I was lucky to have two
parents who were music teachers. They exposed me and my brother to
so many things: the ballet… Broadway… marching bands…every kind of
educational tool and entertainment. So, the fact that we’re
well-rounded and kind of multi-talented was definitely a function of
what we were exposed to and what we got training in. I was lucky
that I had parents who could provide me with dance classes. And I
had a great acting teacher in my high school which is unusual. I
grew up in a great environment.